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The Second Coming has already taken place. It’s time to change your theology!



The Second Coming has already taken place. It’s time to change your theology!


STATEMENT:

The Second Coming has already taken place otherwise you make Christ a liar and a deceiver because He told those same people that His return would happen in the lifetime of some of those to whom He was speaking. Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27, Matthew 24:34, Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:62, Luke 22:69, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:22, Luke 21:32, John 21:22 speaking of John the beloved, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, 17, 5:4, Hebrews 10:37 is not a 2,000 year wait, James 5:8 is not a 2,000 year wait.

Christ came in the same clouds He ascended in Acts chapter one just as He spiritually appeared in the Old Testament over the mercy seat in the Mosaic tabernacle and later in the two physical temples in Jerusalem. He now temples in a sanctuary in each believer in His temple not made of hands! His Second Coming was a spiritual one and not a physical one.

Are you eagerly waiting for Jesus Christ’s second coming as prophesied in the Bible?


Are you eagerly waiting for Jesus Christ’s second coming as prophesied in the Bible?


QUESTION:

Are you eagerly waiting for Jesus Christ’s second coming as prophesied in the Bible?

RESPONSE:

ABSOLUTELY!!! Maranatha! Come Lord Jesus, come.

If Peter did not preach Paul's grace gospel, why does he speak of grace, the cross, and of faith and hope in his epistles?


If Peter did not preach Paul's grace gospel, why does he speak of grace, the cross, and of faith and hope in his epistles?


QUESTION:

Read 1 Peter 1:10-12, 14-21. Within the first chapter of Peter’s first letter, he speaks of the grace of God that would come to them. Not only did He speak of this, but He also spoke of faith and hope they would have by being in God. He also referred to the cross of Christ when he said his recipients were redeemed with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.

It sounds to me that Peter is preaching the grace gospel since he spoke of the grace that would come to the Jews and the blood of the cross being shed for them which is what Paul preached day to day.

Peter was the apostle to the circumcised and Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles, Galatians 2:8. This does not mean the gospels they preached were different, it only means their assignments were different.

Once again, these words were written by the apostle you said never preached the grace gospel of Paul. Please explain.


ANSWER:

Your questions are valid. I appreciate you asking. Let me take them one at a time and clarify with my perspective.

In Luke 20 you ask which gospel was Jesus' preaching.

The answer is that He was preaching the only gospel that existed at that time, the gospel of the kingdom that pertains to the Jews. Paul has not yet been saved, so God’s revelations concerning the grace gospel have not yet been made known.

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these




Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these

STATEMENT:

Feed the hungry, clothe the needy, visit the sick, welcome the stranger, help the less fortunate. (Jesus words, Matt 25:35-40.) I’ve always thought it curious that Jesus makes the distinction between the righteous and the unrighteous based on this criteria. Curiously missing is “confessing and believing”, having correct theology, “sinners prayer”, etc. In fact, according to this passage some people will have been doing these things without even knowing Jesus or that they were doing it for him.

ANSWER:

The passage you quote in Matt 25 will occur throughout the 7-year Tribulation. It does not apply today because Jews are not the chosen and preeminent nation during this grace dispensation. In actual fact, both Jew and Gentile are equal in God’s eyes today, so feeding, clothing, visiting the sick and in prison, etc, of the Jews does not have the salvific value as it will in the Trib.

First John is not a book for New Converts (as many pastors and preachers suggest)

First John is not a book for New Converts (as many pastors and preachers suggest)

In our modern denominational churches today, most pastors and preachers will point new converts and uninformed believers to the first epistle of John because it speaks of loving one’s brother, obeying the commandments, walking in the light, and that we are to overcome the world.

Dear friends, even though there are a few trans-dispensational truths in John’s epistle, that we can relate to in this dispensation of grace, the greater majority of first John is an intensely deep book, filled with Kingdom doctrine, which is specifically written for Jews living during the 7-year Tribulation and under the reign of the Antichrist. The advice and commands in this book are absolutely not relevant or appropriate to new converts or uninformed Christians in this age of grace. The content will throw most believers today for a wild loop and place them on a course that is definitely not suitable for grace living today.

What will the gospel be in the tribulation?

Everlasting Gospel in the Tribulation


The church at Galatia was severely affected by the false teachings of the Judaizers who wanted the believers in Galatia to follow the Law of Moses and be circumcised. Paul deals with their false doctrines and their attacks with instructions in his letter that speak boldly and with authority against these teachings, laying out sever consequences to those who skew the grace only message of the gospel. He writes,

Gal.1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Why is the World in such Chaos?


The world today, compared to pre-2020, has changed. This is a fact that is evident on so many levels as are listed below. For those who have some insights into Bible prophecy, and are aware of the signs, these things are pointing to an imminent change in dispensation, (Maranatha), but for the majority of humanity who sadly remain blindly uninformed, their responses are either one of ignorant support for a united world order who offer a false peace and safety, or one of fear due to ominous repercussions ahead.

The Bible has a lot to say about these 'last days'. If you know what the Bible predicts, you will see a clear and undeniable pattern of events occurring right before your eyes. These events are converging increasingly and their effects on the world and humanity are becoming more frequent and more intense.

Why The Stage Is Set For The End Times

An article worth reposting to get people's attention.

Why The Stage Is Set For The End Times

...no other time has seemed as close to the end times as right now. Why do I say this? Because, particularly in the past year, the geopolitical and economic stage has been set for the fulfillment of several end times prophecies. We now have several potential crises on the horizon. And those potential crises are the same ones the Bible says we’ll experience either in the Tribulation or the days immediately preceding the Tribulation. 

Below are just a few:  The Gog of Magog War, Global War Prospects, The Rising Mark of the Beast System, The Days of Noah and Lot, The Convergence of Signs…. 

See the full article here.

The Stages of Christ's Ascension and Return (Part 10)

The Stages of Christ's Ascension and Return (Part 10)

The return of Jesus Christ is in stages that symmetrically correspond to the stages of His ascension. Because of this pattern (as with many other types and patterns in the Word), it helps us to gain deeper insights, and piece together scriptures, that provide a bigger picture of the redemption plan of God throughout the ages. Connecting the dots on past events is easy due to hindsight, but the types and patterns in the Word really do assist in building a more insightful understanding of future events, as what we are discussing in this series of posts.

In part 8, we put focus on the position of Christ as he returns for the church, which is His Body, before the 7-year Tribulation. Our focus was on a 'silent' rapture based on underlying points of study we expounded on in that post. In this post we will continue to the next stage of Christ's return, being the stage when 'he' appears in the clouds at the mid-point of the Tribulation. Unlike the previous stage, which was silent and 'uneventful', if I can use that term, considering the disappearance of millions from earth, the next stages to come, are full of visible and mind-blowing events, both in heaven and on earth. 

This might also be a good time to remind you that I do not claim to be dogmatic about the content of this study. The material is presented as I understand and interpret it at the time of writing, as mentioned in my opening acknowledgement in the beginning of this series. I trust that you will use this as a guideline and do your own study concerning these events to allow the Holy Spirit to interpret the scriptures based on your views.

Let us now continue with the next event in the details of Christ's multi-stage return.


1 Thess.4:16
  refers to 'the voice of the archangel', and 1 Cor.15:52 mentions 'in the twinkling of an eye'. Unlike the phrases, 'with a shout' and 'in a moment', that are connected to the imminent rapture of the Body of Christ, these next phrases in our key verses represent descriptions for the mid-point resurrection of 'a special group of people' into the heaven.

Now, based on my bolded statement above, we need to stop the boat right here! There is a lot of detail in that sentence, and, where on earth did I get all that? I agree. This is a lot to unpack! I can't recall if I have even mentioned any of this detail at any point in this series, so, let's get into proving that this detail is in the Bible, and that this interpretation becomes clear and evident when you divide the scriptures and understand that Christ's whole return is in stages and across the whole 7-year tribulation event.

About half way through the tribulation, we find some incredible activity documented in scripture. We learn that from the fifth seal, a resurrection/rapture occurs, a heavenly war is fought, and the throne of the Lord appears in the clouds, .

A mid-tribulation resurrection and rapture

Rev.6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal [a little while before the mid-point of the tribulation], I saw under the altar [the "altar" here is an allusion to the altar of the temple or tabernacle where blood sacrifices were made] (1) the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: [the ACTS church]. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them [resurrection and rapture occur]; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until (2) their fellowservants [tribulation martyrs] also and (3) their brethren [great tribulation martyrs], that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Rev.7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude [of all the martyred saints], which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; ... 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation [not 'the great tribulation' but who have endured great tribulation, even to death], and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 

[The souls of them slain] These are the 12-apostles and the 'little flock', the ACTS church saved under the gospel of God during the period of 30AD to 70AD. These faithful Jewish servants are those who endured to the end and who 'loved not their lives unto the death' under 1st century torture. At this fifth seal mark, a little before the mid-point of the trib, they are inquiring of the Lord regarding the avenging of their blood and of judgement.

At this mid-point of the tribulation there is a heavenly call ('the voice of the archangel') that goes out that initiates an ascension (not a rapture) of the 2 witnesses. 

Revelation 11:11-15 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

About this time there is also a resurrection of the 'little flock', the ACTS church, the believing remnant of Israel in that day who died for their faith. At this mid-point, a rapture also takes place, 'in the twinkling of an eye' (*See addendum at the end). Those who participate in this rapture are the 144000, a very unique and special group who's role is to prepare Israel's remnant to receive their Messiah when He comes at the end of the Great Tribulation. It is interesting to note that the role of this group of 144000 is parallel to the role that the ACTS church had in the first century to prepare Israel for the coming of the Kingdom in that day. (Of course, this event was put on hold due to unbelief).

Israel in the Tribulation (Group 1 - occupying the heavens)

The 144000 who minister the gospel of the kingdom throughout the first half of the tribulation are raptured into heaven according to Rev.14:1 [mount Sion is the heavenly Jerusalem]. We notice that at about this mid-point time they are said to be with the Lord (the Lamb) in the heavenly city. Since they presumably could not be harmed during the tribulation, they are raptured up into heaven. This special group of saints may be the ones to serve in the temple of heaven, the New Jerusalem, since they are not defiled by the whore system of Babylon.

[Fellowservants] We can speculate that a resurrection event also occurs here to include the martyrs who become believers through the ministry of the 144000 and who give up their lives within this first half of the tribulation. They will be martyred for their testimony and their identification to Christ. They are portrayed in prophecy as slain souls that were reached with the gospel of the Kingdom during the first half of the tribulation. At their resurrection, they join the 'little flock' before the altar in heaven, waiting for the rest of their brethren martyrs to come in from the great tribulation.

[The Brethren] These are people who become believers during the second half of the Tribulation period, i.e. the "Great Tribulation", under the eternal gospel preached by the heavenly angel, Rev.7:9-17 These are the ones who do not receive the mark of the beast and are killed for their faith and testimony under that antichrist system, and who have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Rev.20:4 tells us that they will be resurrected at the end of the Great Tribulation and will join their resurrected brethren in the heavens to serve Him day and night in His temple, Rev.15:2.

We have another account of this resurrection and rapture in Revelations chapter 12. The passage reads as follows,

Rev.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven [the corrupt angels], and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child [1st part of Israel's restoration: the resurrection/rapture of the kingdom saints], who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne [resurrected and raptured up into heaven].

Isa.66:7 Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child [before the great tribulation, the kingdom saints [listed above] are delivered]. 8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. 9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the Lord: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

So, at the mid-point of the tribulation there will be a rapture of the 144000, who will serve in the temple, which is the New Jerusalem. There is also a resurrection of those who were killed for their faith. They are the ones under the alter who wait for the great tribulation martyrs to join them before God takes vengeance on their blood.

Additional scriptures to support these saints [the 144000 and the martyrs of ACTS and the tribulation] who are now in heaven,

Rev.3:12 Him that overcometh [the martyrs of ACTS and the tribulation, "those who loved not their lives unto the death"; dying for their faith in the gospel and not giving up their testimony] will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Hebrews 12:22-23 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

War in Heaven

Following the mid-tribulation resurrection and rapture, we hear of a war that has broken out in the heavens, and Satan, including the corrupt angels that followed him, a 1/3 part of all the heavenly hosts, are judged and cast down to earth. We read the details as follows,

Rev.6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth [corrupt heavenly hosts], even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Revelation chapter 12 repeats the vision again with additional details,

Rev.12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon [Satan], having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven [the corrupt 1/3 part of all the angelic hosts of heaven], and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. ... 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

This war is one-sided and Satan and his hosts cannot prevail. It is interesting to note that at this point they were cast down unto, [or towards] the earth (Rev.6:12; Rev.12:4), but after this short-lived war and judgement, they are cast down into [or onto] the earth, (Rev12:8-9).

Verse 10 above results in praise in heaven as it is at this point, after Satan is cast out of the heavens, that the first part of God's great restoration plan is complete. The heavens, which were corrupt, are now cleared out and are vacant for God's heavenly people to fill. The purpose of the Body of Christ was always to fill the heavens with the glory and majesty of Christ. This happens at this point and is the cause of praises in heaven. The rest of the activity continues to clean out the earth so that Christ can fill ALL things with His glory.

The appearance of Jesus Christ in the clouds

With the heavens now cleared of corruption and evil, Jesus descends down into the clouds. The victory is now complete in the heavens and it now belongs to the Son. All the focus will now be on earth as events of the great tribulation resume as planned by God.

Rev.6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Up until this time, the 'spiritual world' has been hidden from view. Since the start of the tribulation, all that has happened up till this point has been natural and visible. The revealing of the antichrist and all the plagues, till now, have been earthly and natural. But things seem to change at the sixth seal. We see the heavens depart, being rolled up like a scroll, to reveal a frightening and real visage of the throne of the Lord appearing in the clouds. For the first time the spiritual world becomes undeniably visible and real to the whole world. We know it becomes visible to the human eye, as men fear the sight of it and hide their faces from the One that sits on the throne, (Rev.6:16). It is evident that this sight brings a dramatic escalation of the reality of Christ and of judgement and wrath. This first physical sighting of the throne of the Lord brings men to the reality that the hidden things of God are real and that their scoffing and mockery of bible prophecy and truth have been vain and consequential.

Israel in the Tribulation (Group 2 - a remnant that flees in the wilderness)

Israel, at this mid-point in the tribulation is clearly divided into two groups. Group one is a special group of saints that will occupy the heavenly city. The purpose behind this could be connected to the temple, but I will need to look more into these details before I add anything here regarding that.

The second group are the 1/3rd of Jews that recognize the abomination of desolation, the defiling act by the antichrist in the temple in Jerusalem. When this happens, as per prophecy, Jews would have to flee to the mountains. It is here that God will protect them in the wilderness during the Great Tribulation period. These are the Jews that will recognize Jesus when He comes at His second coming. These are the ones who will be filled with the Holy Spirit when Jesus pours out His Spirit upon all flesh, (Joel 2:27-29). These are the ones who will enter into the Millennial Kingdom as preeminent Jews who will bring the Word and salvation to the nations in the Millennium.

Rev.12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness [2nd part of Israel's restoration: 1/3 of Jews who fled into the wilderness], where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days [through the great tribulation].

See also Matt.24:15-21.


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* Addendum to 'Twinking of an eye'

With regard to the phrase, "In the twinkling of an eye", the following is taken from the Strongs Lexicon,

Strongs Greek 4493: "In the twinkling of an eye"  - ῥιπή rhipḗ, phonetic: 'hree-pay';

description: a jerk or wink of the eye, i.e. (by analogy) a moment, an instant.

expression: least conceivable duration of time. twinkle or flash of the eye; any rapid movement.

'Eye' also denotes: "To see, or being visible".

In the context of the description above, the rapture of the saints that occurs at the mid-point of the Tribulation can be depicted as an instant movement (or removal), by means of being snatched away rapidly, in a flash of the eye. Given that the descriptions point to a very quick event, my opinion is that it is a similar experience to that of the Body of Christ, discussed in part 8. Having said this, and without claiming to be dogmatic about it, I do want to add that the reference to 'eyes' is intriguing. Although I believe that the rapture of these saints will be too quick for the eye to see, I do want to add that there will definitely be a visible nature to these transpiring event; (1) the appearing of the throne of Jesus Christ, visibly in the clouds, (2) the physical resurrection of killed saints, and (3) the disappearing of living saints as they are caught up into the heaven. There most certainly will be a visual drama unfolding before the eyes of unbelievers in that day!

God bless.

The Stages of Christ's Ascension and Return (Part 11)

The Stages of Christ's Ascension and Return (Part 11)

We have come a long way in this study, documenting the ascension of Christ and then His descent, illustrating how it is in symmetry. We have already covered how Jesus leaves the highest heavens and enters into that place of light, and calls home the Body of Christ in a silent rapture. Then, about three and a half years later, at the mid-point of the tribulation we have Jesus appearing in the clouds and the occurrence of the next rapture/resurrection of the kingdom saints and the tribulation saints. It is also at this point where war in the heavens occurs, where Satan is cast down to earth, and the throne of the Lord appears down into the clouds. It is from this position that the rest of Christ's judgements (the seven trumpets) and conquering will happen throughout the Great Tribulation (the second three and a half years).

The final stage of Christ's descent occurs near the end of the Great Tribulation. Jesus will ride out on a white horse with the angelic armies behind Him to conquer the earth, then set His feet down on the Mt. of Olives where He will judge the Gentile nations and then inauguration of the Millennial Kingdom. It is also about this time that Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem descends down from heaven and appears in proximity to earth. Let's have a look at some details of this final position in Christ's descent to earth.



What is the Trumpet?

Let's place some focus now on the trumpet, which is mentioned in both of our two key verses,

1 Thess.4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Cor.15:51-52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

There has been a lot of confusion and disagreement about what this trumpet is! Instead of looking at what everyone else is saying, and analyzing what, and why there is so much disagreement, I'm simply going to focus on what I am convicted of, based on weighing up various theories and scriptural proof and coming to my own conclusion of it. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but this is my personal conviction in this regard.

The trumpet in our key verses correspond to the last of the trumpet judgements in Revelation. This trumpet announces the beginning of the victory and the coming kingdom of God on earth. It not only fits with other scripture confirmations, but it also simply makes sense, without trying to force scripture. 

Let's have a look at how this all comes together. 

Rev.11:15 And the seventh angel sounded [the last trumpet]; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. (Also Rev.19)

Rev. 11:15-17 records a scene in heaven in which the 7th trumpet is sounded which heralds in the coming of God’s kingdom on earth. However, the verse continues with judgement and war on earth. We must understand therefore that Revelation is describing events from two different perspectives; that which is happening in heaven, and that which is happening on earth. We cannot be absolutely sure of exact chronological order, but we can deduce what is happening via using keywords in the scripture and by knowing a general outline of how events fit together.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

The proof that this scripture above is in reference to Armageddon is due to the language (keywords) used in the verses. Have a look at the last bolded statement above. It speaks of lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. Now have a look at Revelation 16 and compare the language,

Rev.16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent [±120 pounds]: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Can you see the language? Can you see the events that occur? They are similar, except that in this 16th chapter, it directly refers to Armageddon in verse 16. So, chapter 11 is speaking of the seventh angel sounding his trumpet, and we see how the heavenly hosts rejoice by saying, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." Then we read of Armageddon, confirmed by chapter 16.

Armageddon however, is the end point of a battle campaign that the Lord of Hosts will lead. There are other battles and victories to be had BEFORE we get to the climactic Armageddon. This campaign is mentioned in Revelation 14 and is pictured by reapers going out and thrusting their sickles into two harvests; first, a ripe grain harvest, then a ripe grape harvest.

A picture of the rapture (reaping) of the nations

Rev.14:14-16 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, "Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

The ripe grain harvest represents the beginning of this war campaign through the middle east, reaping the enemies of Israel in the course He has plotted. In regards to grain, the word "ripe" is translated as the words "dry, withered, overripe, and rotten". The sickle would be taken out and thrust into the dry stocks of wheat and they would be cut. Notice that it does not speak of winnowing to separate chaff from the wheat. There is no separating good from bad here. All of this harvest is to be burned. The only response God has for this harvest is to put a sickle of judgment to it because it is dry and withered.

The Revelation passage continues with a picture of the battle of Armageddon

Between verse 16 and 17 we have approximately 30 days. During these days, God's wrath, in the form of the vials [bowls] are poured out upon the earth. These vials end with Armageddon being cast into the winepress of God's wrath.

Rev.14:17-20 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, "Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe." 19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses' bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.

The word ripe here is different from the word that was used in verse 15 that referred to that which is dried up or withered, but rather here it refers to that which is in its prime.  It means to be ripe at its peak. 

The vine of the earth and the ripe grapes are symbolic for Armageddon. These are the clusters of grapes that have been gathered into the great winepress of the wrath of God. The above verses speak of the graphic visuals that will occur at the end of Christs war campaign where He will trample the grapes in that great winepress. From scripture we can gather that great hailstones in excess of 100 pounds will fall upon the armies gathered in Megiddo. We read details of this in both Rev.16, ...

Rev.16:16 -21 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent [±120 pounds]: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

... and Rev.19,

Rev.19:11-15 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Rev.16:16-21 -- Hailstones [120lbs] and river of blood.)

I've gone on a bit of a sideroad with the Armageddon details, but let me wrap up with the purpose of this post. We set out to prove that the current stage of Christ's return is identified with the trumpet of imminent victory from heaven, but a trumpet of war on the earth and the proclamation that the earth is ready to be harvested. It is a declaration of the beginning of the reign of Christ, the beginning of the kingdoms of the world under His rule. The seventh trumpet is the arrival of Jesus Christ as a conqueror, taking vengeance on His enemies in a sweeping campaign of the vials of God's wrath, and ends in the winepress of the battle of Armageddon.

I have a few more things to say regarding this time and this topic. This I will do in the next post which should be the last in this series. I continue to hope and trust that what I have shared in this series will have inspired you to dig into the scriptures for yourself, and to study these things to confirm their validity and gain hope and confidence in the details of Christ's return.

God bless.

OBS: God's Word is a Progressive Plan (Part.5.2)

OBS: God's Word is a Progressive Plan (Part.5.2)


This is Part 5 of the Series

TWO interesting points that required
a
'CHANGE IN COMMUNICATION'


Point #2

I'd like to expand on a piece of information Peter mentions in the second scripture in Part #1. The scripture in focus is the following,

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten [born, birthed] us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus from the dead.

Peter mentions the fact that 'us', in reference to the Jews (Israel) have been begotten (or birthed) AGAIN! Born again? Firstly, what exactly does Peter mean by this, and second, does it line up with what the modern church and many Christians say today? So, in other words, what does 'born again' REALLY mean in the true biblical context, and does it REALLY have any significance in this grace dispensation? You might be very surprised at the findings.

Let's dig in and investigate what the scriptures say.